Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/02/1993 01:00 PM House JUD

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  HJR 27:  DESECRATION OF U.S. FLAG                                            
                                                                               
  Number 553                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ED WILLIS testified on behalf of the HOUSE                    
  SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS regarding                 
  HJR 27.  He said that the committee had introduced the                       
  resolution at the request of various veterans' organizations                 
  around the state.  An identical measure, SJR 9, was                          
  introduced in the Senate, he said.  The resolution asked the                 
  U.S. Congress to pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting                 
  desecration of the U.S. flag, a step which would have to be                  
  ratified by a two-thirds majority of states, he said.                        
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS supported HJR 27, but had some                       
  questions regarding the language on page 2, starting with                    
  line 24.  She asked why the bill referred to the "several                    
  states," instead of all the states.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 596                                                                   
                                                                               
  WARREN CULVER, from the AMERICAN LEGION, said that the                       
  language matched language in a national resolution                           
  concerning flag desecration.                                                 
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS said that the phrase "several                        
  states" did not to her connote all the states, and that                      
  while she did not want to hold HJR 27 up, it would be                        
  clearer simply to say "all states."                                          
                                                                               
  There followed general discussion on the relative merits and                 
  meanings of the words "several states" and "all states."                     
                                                                               
  Number 603                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. CULVER testified in support of HJR 27.  He said that the                 
  resolution did not interfere with constitutionally protected                 
  free speech.  He said that the flag was a living, unifying                   
  symbol, representing freedom and hope.  He said that burning                 
  and desecrating the flag slandered the service of people who                 
  had fought under it.  He answered critics who opposed                        
  amending the Constitution by pointing out that the                           
  Constitution had been amended 46 times already.  He cited an                 
  artistic display in Anchorage which had encouraged people to                 
  walk on a flag on the floor, which shocked veterans.                         
                                                                               
  MR. CULVER said that a national poll indicated that 70                       
  percent of Americans believed that a flag amendment would                    
  not place freedom of speech in jeopardy.  He said that so                    
  far, 28 or 29 states had asked Congress for a constitutional                 
  amendment on flag desecration and that Congress could act on                 
  the amendment if nine more states asked for the amendment.                   
  He cited Alaska's historical ties to the military.                           
                                                                               
  Number 711                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked Mr. Culver to repeat the                       
  history of previous attempts to get similar legislation                      
  passed.                                                                      
                                                                               
  MR. CULVER explained that the legislation had first been                     
  introduced last session as SJR 29 by Senator Zharoff, and                    
  passed through three or four committees, but died in the                     
  House.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 732                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked whether the bill had been                      
  introduced in only one previous legislative session.                         
                                                                               
  MR. CULVER answered in the affirmative.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 735                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN MOVED PASSAGE of HJR 27 from the                        
  committee with individual recommendations, but said that he                  
  did not see a fiscal note for the resolution.                                
                                                                               
  MS. HORETSKI said that it had not been decided if HJR 27                     
  needed a fiscal note.  She said that it might be possible to                 
  have the Legislative Affairs Agency prepare a fiscal note.                   
                                                                               
  Number 752                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER said that he would consider as part of the                   
  motion that HJR 27 would have a zero fiscal note.  He asked                  
  for objection and, hearing none, declared HJR 27 PASSED with                 
  individual recommendations.  He then brought HB 231 to the                   
  table.                                                                       
                                                                               

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